Christian Evidences Part Two by Lane Rogers
Other Jewish Sources
The Talmud!
The Jesus handed down a large amount of oral tradition from generation to generation. This material was organized according to subject matter by Rabbi Akiba before his death. His work was then revised by Rabbi Meir. The project was completed about 200 AD by Rabbi Judah and is known as the Mishnah. There is an ancient commentary on the Mishnah known as the Gemaras. The combination of the Mishnah and the Gemaras form the Talmud.
It ought be expected that the most reliable information about Jesus from the Talmud came from the earliest period of compilation__70 AD to 200 AD, known as the the Tannaitic period. It is from that period that the below quote is found in Sanhedrin 43a.
(This particular quote is from the Babylonian Talmud)
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On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, 'He is going to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy.' Any one who can say anything in his favor, let him come forward and plead on his behalf.' But since nothing was brought forward he was hanged on the eve of the Passover! D. Ulla retorted: Do you supposed that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith [enticer], concerning whom Scripture says, Neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him (Deu. 13:9)? With Yeshu however, it was different for he was connected with the government [or royalty,i.e. influential]. E. Our Rabbis taught: Yeshu had five disciples, Matthai, Nakai, Nezer, Buni, and Todah. When Matthai was brought [ before the court] he said to them [the judges], Shall Matthai be executed? Is it not written, Matthai [when] shall I come and appear before God? (Psa. 42:3). Thereupon they retorted: Yes, Matthai shall be executed, since it is written, Matthai [when] shall [he] die and his name perish (Psa. 41:6). When Nakai was brought in he said to them: Shall Nakai be executed? It is not written, Naki [the innocent] and the righteous slay thou not (Exo. 23:7)? Yes was the answer, Nakai shall be executed, since it is written. In secret places does Naki [the innocent] slay (Psa. 10:8). When Nezer was brought in, he said: Shall Nezer be executed? Is it not written, and Nezer [a twig] shall grow forth out of his roots (Isa. 11:1). Yes, they said, Nezer shall be executed, since it is written, But thou art cast forth away from the grave like Nezer [and abhorred offshoot] (Isa. 14:19). When Buni was brought in, he said: Shall Buni be executed? Is it not written, Beni [my son], my first born (Exo. 4:22). Yes, they said, Buni shall be executed, since it is written, Behold I will slay Bine-ka [thy son] thy first born (Exo.4:23). And when Todah was brought in, he said to them: shall Todah be executed? It it not written, A psalm for Todah [thanksgiving] (Psa. 100:1)? Yes, they answered, Today shall be executed, since it is written, Whoso offereth the sacrifice of Today [thanksgiving] honoreth me. (Psa. 50:23) |
Here we have another account of the death of Jesus. The term claiming that "Jesus was hanged" is an interesting way to describe His death. This is not all that unusual since in the NT when crucifixion in mentioned at times it is called being hanged (see Gal. 3:3, and as the two males were killed at the same time in Luke 23:39[kremamenos]). While being "crucified" is more common being "hanged" is a variant of one who received the same fate.
Here is what we can know from the above passage.
1. The fact of Jesus' death by crucifixion and
2. The time of this event which is mentioned twice as occurring on the eve of the Jewish Passover.
3. We are surprisingly told that for forty days before hand it was announced publicly that Jesus was to be stoned. While this is not specifically recorded in the NT it is in-line with Jewish practices of the time. Jesus had been threatened at least two other times (John 8:58-58; 10:31-33, 39).
4. Jesus was judged by the Jews to be guilty of "sorcery" and spiritual apostasy in leading Israel astray by His teachings.
5. It is also stated that no witness came forward to defend Jesus and He was killed.
It is interesting that there is no explanation as to why Jesus was crucified (hanged) when stoning was the prescribed punishment by Jewish law. Most likely, the Roman involvement provided a change of plans.
We also note that there is reference to five of Yeshua's disciples standing before the judges who make individual judgments as to who should be executed. However, there are no deaths recorded.
6. The fact that Jesus had some disciples has been learned.
7. Some among the Jews thought the men were guilty enough to warrant execution.
There are other references to Jesus in the Jewish Talmud but many are from later dates. One reference claims that Jesus was treated differently than other people who lead Israel astray because He was connected to royalty.
The Toledoth Jesu
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The materials contained in these books circulated orally (difficult to trace, but perhaps came into some form around the 2nd century) Certainly the oral traditions are much older and came into book form we as we them about the 4th century at the earliest or in or around the 6th century or the Early Middle Ages at the latest. These books were widely circulated in Europe and the Middle East from the 9th century; Agobard, archbishop of Lyon, attests to the existence of such a book in 826 in De Iudaicis Superstitionibus. Originally in Aramaic, there are recensions extant in Hebrew, and later versions in Judeo-Persian and Arabic as well as Yiddish and Ladino (Judeo-Spanish). Long unknown to Christians, it was first translated into Latin by Raymond Martin, a Dominican friar, toward the end of the 13th century. Until recently scholars have paid little attention to Toledoth Yeshu, "probably for its offensive contents and popular orientation." A gardener named Juda discovered the plans of the disciples and dug a new grave in his garden. Then he removed the body of Jesus from Joseph's tomb and placed in in his own newly dug grave. The disciples came to the original tomb found the body gone and proclaimed that Jesus had risen. The Jewish leaders proceeded to the gave site and found it empty but Juda took them to the site where he had hide the body. The leaders were greatly relieved and Juda offered to sell them the body for 30 pieces of silver. The Jewish leaders then dragged to body through the streets of Jerusalem. As mentioned above, the compilation of the Toledoth Jesu was late about the 4th or 5th century but the traditions are very early. Jewish scholars scorn the reliability of this source in favor of the early myth that it was the disciples who removed the body of Jesus from the grave as reported in Matthew 28:11-15. This saying was popular when the gospel was written (AD 70-80) and was still in play as late as AD 150 with Justin Martyr writing that the Jewish leaders had even sent specially trained men around the Mediterranean, even to Rome to promote this teaching and this was confirmed later by Terullian (About 200 AD). This anti-Christian document not only refers to Jesus but gives an interesting account of what happened to the body of Jesus after His death. While there is great debate as to the reliability of the Toledoth Jesu when we know for sure is that very early on it was well known that The tomb of Jesus was empty! You can read the Toledoth Yeshu below. |
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Toledoth Yeshu This is a derogatory version of the life of Jesus, growing out of the response of the Jewish community to Christianity. The tradition presented here is most commonly dated to approximately the 2nd century CE. The text it self is closer to the 14th c. There is no scholarly consensus on to what extent the text might be a direct parody of a now lost gospel. H.J. Schonfield argued that it was so closely connected to the Gospel of the Hebrews that he attempted to reconstruct that lost work from the Toledoth. Text from Goldstein, Jesus in the Jewish Tradition, pp. 148-154. Most of the notes are mine, but they are clearly marked ([G] = Goldstein, [AH] = me) In the year 3671 in the days of King Jannaeus, a great misfortune befell Israel, when there arose a certain disreputable man of the tribe of Judah, whose name was Joseph Pandera. He lived at Bethlehem, in Judah. Near his house dwelt a widow and her lovely and chaste daughter named Miriam. Miriam was betrothed to Yohanan, of the royal house of David, a man learned in the Torah and God-fearing. At the close of a certain Sabbath, Joseph Pandera, attractive and like a warrior in appearance, having gazed lustfully upon Miriam, knocked upon the door of her room and betrayed her by pretending that he was her betrothed husband, Yohanan. Even so, she was amazed at this improper conduct and submitted only against her will. Thereafter, when Yohanan came to her, Miriam expressed astonishment at behavior so foreign to his character. It was thus that they both came to know the crime of Joseph Pandera and the terrible mistake on the part of Miriam. Whereupon Yohanan went to Rabban Shimeon ben Shetah and related to him the tragic seduction. Lacking witnesses required for the punishment of Joseph Pandera, and Miriam being with child, Yohanan left for Babylonia. Miriam gave birth to a son and named him Yehoshua, after her brother. This name later deteriorated to Yeshu. On the eighth day he was circumcised. When he was old enough the lad was taken by Miriam to the house of study to be instructed in the Jewish tradition. One day Yeshu walked in front of the Sages with his head uncovered, showing shameful disrespect. At this, the discussion arose as to whether this behavior did not truly indicate that Yeshu was an illegitimate child and the son of a niddah. Moreover, the story tells that while the rabbis were discussing the Tractate Nezikin, he gave his own impudent interpretation of the law and in an ensuing debate he held that Moses could not be the greatest of the prophets if he had to receive counsel from Jethro. This led to further inquiry as to the antecedents of Yeshu, and it was discovered through Rabban Shimeon ben Shetah that he was the illegitimate son of Joseph Pandera. Miriam admitted it. After this became known, it was necessary for Yeshu to flee to Upper Galilee. After King Jannaeus, his wife Helene ruled over all Israel. In the Temple was to be found the Foundation Stone on which were engraven the letters of God's Ineffable Name. Whoever learned the secret of the Name and its use would be able to do whatever he wished. Therefore, the Sages took measures so that no one should gain this knowledge. Lions of brass were bound to two iron pillars at the gate of the place of burnt offerings. Should anyone enter and learn the Name, when he left the lions would roar at him and immediately the valuable secret would be forgotten. Yeshu came and learned the letters of the Name; he wrote them upon the parchment which he placed in an open cut on his thigh and then drew the flesh over the parchment. As he left, the lions roared and he forgot the secret. But when he came to his house he reopened the cut in his flesh with a knife an lifted out the writing. Then he remembered and obtained the use of the letters. He gathered about himself three hundred and ten young men of Israel and accused those who spoke ill of his birth of being people who desired greatness and power for themselves. Yeshu proclaimed, "I am the Messiah; and concerning me Isaiah prophesied and said, 'Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.'" He quoted other messianic texts, insisting, "David my ancestor prophesied concerning me: 'The Lord said to me, thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee.'" The insurgents with him replied that if Yeshu was the Messiah he should give them a convincing sign. They therefore, brought to him a lame man, who had never walked. Yeshu spoke over the man the letters of the Ineffable Name, and the leper was healed. Thereupon, they worshipped him as the Messiah, Son of the Highest. When word of these happenings came to Jerusalem, the Sanhedrin decided to bring about the capture of Yeshu. They sent messengers, Annanui and Ahaziah, who, pretending to be his disciples, said that they brought him an invitation from the leaders of Jerusalem to visit them. Yeshu consented on condition the members of the Sanhedrin receive him as a lord. He started out toward Jerusalem and, arriving at Knob, acquired an ass on which he rode into Jerusalem, as a fulfillment of the prophecy of Zechariah. The Sages bound him and led him before Queen Helene, with the accusation: "This man is a sorcerer and entices everyone." Yeshu replied, "The prophets long ago prophesied my coming: 'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,' and I am he; but as for them, Scripture says 'Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly.'" Queen Helene asked the Sages: "What he says, is it in your Torah?" They replied: "It is in our Torah, but it is not applicable to him, for it is in Scripture: 'And that prophet which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.' He has not fulfilled the signs and conditions of the Messiah." Yeshu spoke up: "Madam, I am the Messiah and I revive the dead." A dead body was brought in; he pronounced the letters of the Ineffable Name and the corpse came to life. The Queen was greatly moved and said: "This is a true sign." She reprimanded the Sages and sent them humiliated from her presence. Yeshu's dissident followers increased and there was controversy in Israel. Yeshu went to Upper Galilee. the Sages came before the Queen, complaining that Yeshu practiced sorcery and was leading everyone astray. Therefore she sent Annanui and Ahaziah to fetch him. The found him in Upper Galilee, proclaiming himself the Son of God. When they tried to take him there was a struggle, but Yeshu said to the men of Upper Galilee: "Wage no battle." He would prove himself by the power which came to him from his Father in heaven. He spoke the Ineffable Name over the birds of clay and they flew into the air. He spoke the same letters over a millstone that had been placed upon the waters. He sat in it and it floated like a boat. When they saw this the people marveled. At the behest of Yeshu, the emissaries departed and reported these wonders to the Queen. She trembled with astonishment. Then the Sages selected a man named Judah Iskarioto and brought him to the Sanctuary where he learned the letters of the Ineffable Name as Yeshu had done. When Yeshu was summoned before the queen, this time there were present also the Sages and Judah Iskarioto. Yeshu said: "It is spoken of me, 'I will ascend into heaven.'" He lifted his arms like the wings of an eagle and he flew between heaven and earth, to the amazement of everyone. The elders asked Iskarioto to do likewise. He did, and flew toward heaven. Iskarioto attempted to force Yeshu down to earth but neither one of the two could prevail against the other for both had the use of the Ineffable Name. However, Iskarioto defiled Yeshu, so that they both lost their power and fell down to the earth, and in their condition of defilement the letters of the Ineffable Name escaped from them. Because of this deed of Judah they weep on the eve of the birth of Yeshu. Yeshu was seized. His head was covered with a garment and he was smitten with pomegranate staves; but he could do nothing, for he no longer had the Ineffable Name. Yeshu was taken prisoner to the synagogue of Tiberias, and they bound him to a pillar. To allay his thirst they gave him vinegar to drink. On his head they set a crown of thorns. There was strife and wrangling between the elders and the unrestrained followers of Yeshu, as a result of which the followers escaped with Yeshu to the region of Antioch; there Yeshu remained until the eve of the Passover. Yeshu then resolved to go the Temple to acquire again the secret of the Name. That year the Passover came on a Sabbath day. On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu, accompanied by his disciples, came to Jerusalem riding upon an ass. Many bowed down before him. He entered the Temple with his three hundred and ten followers. One of them, Judah Iskarioto apprised the Sages that Yeshu was to be found in the Temple, that the disciples had taken a vow by the Ten Commandments not to reveal his identity but that he would point him out by bowing to him. So it was done and Yeshu was seized. Asked his name, he replied to the question by several times giving the names Mattai, Nakki, Buni, Netzer, each time with a verse quoted by him and a counter-verse by the Sages. Yeshu was put to death on the sixth hour on the eve of the Passover and of the Sabbath. When they tried to hang him on a tree it broke, for when he had possessed the power he had pronounced by the Ineffable Name that no tree should hold him. He had failed to pronounce the prohibition over the carob-stalk, for it was a plant more than a tree, and on it he was hanged until the hour for afternoon prayer, for it is written in Scripture, "His body shall not remain all night upon the tree." They buried him outside the city. On the first day of the week his bold followers came to Queen Helene with the report that he who was slain was truly the Messiah and that he was not in his grave; he had ascended to heaven as he prophesied. Diligent search was made and he was not found in the grave where he had been buried. A gardener had taken him from the grave and had brought him into his garden and buried him in the sand over which the waters flowed into the garden. Queen Helene demanded, on threat of a severe penalty, that the body of Yeshu be shown to her within a period of three days. There was a great distress. When the keeper of the garden saw Rabbi Tanhuma walking in the field and lamenting over the ultimatum of the Queen, the gardener related what he had done, in order that Yeshu's followers should not steal the body and then claim that he had ascended into heaven. The Sages removed the body, tied it to the tail of a horse and transported it to the Queen, with the words, "This is Yeshu who is said to have ascended to heaven." Realizing that Yeshu was a false prophet who enticed the people and led them astray, she mocked the followers but praised the Sages. The disciples went out among the nations--three went to the mountains of Ararat, three to Armenia, three to Rome, and three to the kingdoms buy the sea. They deluded the people, but ultimately they were slain. The erring followers amongst Israel said: "You have slain the Messiah of the Lord." The Israelites answered: "You have believed in a false prophet." There was endless strife and discord for thirty years. The Sages desired to separate from Israel those who continued to claim Yeshu as the Messiah, and they called upon a greatly learned man, Simeon Kepha, for help. Simeon went to Antioch, main city of the Nazarenes and proclaimed toe them: "I am the disciple of Yeshu. He has sent me to show you the way. I will give you a sign as Yeshu has done." Simeon, having gained the secret of the Ineffable Name, healed a leper and a lame man by means of it and thus found acceptance as a true disciple. He told them that Yeshu was in heaven, at the right hand of his Father, in fulfillment of Psalm 110:1. He added that Yeshu desired that they separate themselves from the Jews and no longer follow their practices, as Isaiah had said, "Your new moons and your feasts my soul abhorreth." They were now to observe the first day of the week instead of the seventh, the Resurrection instead of the Passover, the Ascension into Heaven instead of the Feast of Weeks, the finding of the Cross instead of the New Year, the Feast of the Circumcision instead of the Day of Atonement, the New Year instead of Chanukah; they were to be indifferent with regard to circumcision and the dietary laws. Also they were to follow the teaching of turning the right if smitten on the left and the meek acceptance of suffering. All these new ordinances which Simeon Kepha (or Paul, as he was known to the Nazarenes) taught them were really meant to separate these Nazarenes from the people of Israel and to bring the internal strife to an end.
[2] Some traditions say 'Egypt'. [AH] [3] Sexual impurity (incest, adultery, prostitution, etc.). [AH] [4] In one version of this admission, she confesses that not only is Yeshu the product of an illicit union, but she was ritually unclean from menstruation at the time as well (Sexual contact even with a woman's husband is not lawful during, or, in Rabbinic law, for some time after, menstruation). [AH] [6] Consistent, apparently, with the general tenor of Jewish criticism of Jesus' miracles going at least as far back as Celsus (2nd c.) this tradition does not deny Jesus' ability to perform miracles, accusing him instead of practicing magic. This version even accepts the divine origin of the miracles, attributing them to his misuse of the divine name, with its inherent powers. In the Alphabet of Ben Sira, Lilith is accused of the same crime, using the power of the name to escape from the Garden of Eden. [AH] [7] Some traditions say 'Egypt'. [G] [8] In a variation on the story, Judah is able to out-miracle Yeshu in the sign contest without defiling him. Yeshu is discredited and arrested, and, as in this story, his followers are able to break him free, but he still remembers the Ineffable Name. He escapes to Egypt in hopes of learning Egyptian magic as well (regarded as the best magic in the world). Judah comes to Egypt and infiltrates the disciples, posing as one himself. It is from this vantage point that he is able to cause Yeshu to forget the magical Name, resulting in the later's desire to return to Jerusalem and relearn it. Judah sends warning to the Sages, along with his plan to arrest him. [AH]
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JOSEPHUS
Jewish historian (but also Roman historian) Flavius Josephus was born in AD 37 or 38 and died in AD 97. He became a Pharisee at age 19. After surviving the battle against the Romans he served as a commander under Vespasian in Jerusalem. After Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD he moved to Rome and became a historian under the same Emperor. It has always been an perplexing thought process that is hard to understand when people classify Josephus as a Jewish Historian when in fact he was a Roman historian. Perhaps because he wrote of Jewish history for the Romans.
The Antiquities, one of Josephus' major works provides some but often disputed evidence concerning Jesus. Written around AD 90-95, it is earlier than the testimonies of other Roman historians. Josephus speaks of many persons and events of first century Palestine and makes two references to Jesus. The first is very short and is the context of a reference to James, "the brother of Jesus." (Antiquities 20:9) It is here we a close connection between Jesus and James and the belief that some believed Jesus to be the Messiah.
The second reference is one of the most debated in history. But that is to be expected from those who are unbelievers. Some of the words do appear to be an interpolation (addition). For instance, a portion of the quotation reports:
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Now there was about this time A Jesus a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats....He was (the) Christ...he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these things and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him (Antiquities 18:3). |
The claim is that since Josephus was a Jew he was unlikely to write about Jesus in this manner. Never mind that all the early Christians were Jews. Origen informs us that Josephus did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah (Contra Celsum 1:47). As early as Eusebius, the passage was cited as it reads above. Therefore some scholars believe the distinctively Christian reference to this work is an interpolation. There are good indications that the major part of Josephus is genuine so the only debated part is that which mentions Jesus as one might expect.
It is true that Josephus probably did not write in Greek but rather Aramaic so the Greek versions have the possibility of being changed more so than the Aramaic version so they claim. However in 1971, professor Shlomo Pines published a translation of a different version of this passage, quoted in an Arabic manuscript of the tenth century. The manuscript in question appears in the Book of the Title written by Agapius, a 10th century Christian Arab and Melkite bishop of Hierapolis. Agapius appears to be quoting from memory, for even Josephus' title is an approximation:
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For he says in the treatises that he has written in the governance of the Jews: "At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus, and his conduct was good, and he was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon their loyalty to him. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive. Accordingly they believed that he was the Messiah, concerning whom the Prophets have recounted wonders." |
Of the three disputed portions none remains unchanged. The initial problematic statement "if it be lawful to call him a man" has been dropped completely recounting only the words that Jesus was a wise man. Notice, "he was a doer of wonderful works" have also disappeared and instead the words "He was the Christ, or perhaps "the Messiah" now takes it place. The phrase that "he appeared to them on the third day, now reads "he appeared to the disciples on the third day. And lastly, the final statement is simply "concerning whom the Prophets have recounted wonders.......
There are some good reason as to why the Aramaic version may indeed be the original words of Josephus. As Dr. Pines states, none of the arguments used against the Greek text have any bearing on the Aramaic text. The Aramaic version is generally accepted as the original, mindful that there are always skeptics regardless of the evidence.
Here is what we learn from Josephus.
1. Jesus was known as a wise and virtuous man, one recognized by His good conduct.
2. He had many disciples, both Jew and Gentile.
3. Pilate condemned his to die.
4. With crucifixion explicitly being mentioned as the mode.
5. The disciples reported that Jesus had risen from the dead.
6. That he had appeared to them on the third day after his crucifixion.
7. Consequently, the disciples continued to proclaim His teachings.
8. Perhaps Jesus was the Messiah of whom the Old Testament spoke about and predicted wonders.
9. James was the brother of Jesus and
10. Was called the Messiah by some.
by Lane Rogers